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Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
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Ok I did some heavy reading and a nice exegesis on the passage. There are other mentions of milk and strong meat but I want to point out this one to bring across the point.
Now since we dealing with with the book for Hebrews here we eh really too sure who wrote it even though it seems like Paul but seems like a more eloquent person in some ways. http://www.gotquestions.org/author-Hebrews.html
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' For when for the time ye ought to be teachers'
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Translated trini (based on the greek comparison i did)
ALL NOW SO ALLYUH SUPPOSED TO BE TEACHING MEN.
Meaning that these people being addressed have been in the faith for a substantial amount of time where they should have the ability knowledge and knowhow to teach someone the tenets of the faith. So here we see TEACHING or EXPLAINING.
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"ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God"
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translated trini
ALLYUH NEED SOMEBODY TO COME AND TEACH ALLYUH DE FIRST PRINCIPLES OF WHAT GOD SAY
The key part i see there is the oracles of God which translates to the utterences of God. Basically waht God said.
Now the first principles of Christianity are best focused in Romans 4:22-25
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Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Rom 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Rom 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
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(Among other scriptures which you are free to add) This says that we are justified through the belief (faith) that our sins were imputed to Christ so that we can be seen righteous in God's eyes, SAVED.
Thats basically the first principle.
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Aight back to Hebrews now ... lol
I know this is going long, but what I am about to say at the end would really scripturally determine if you are at the milky stage or meaty stage........ (some ah allyuh continue reading cuz you doh want to be milky ent????? lol)
Yeah so.... they needed someone to teach them the first principles of their actual faith cuz it seems like they never moved off from there.
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"and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat."
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translated trini
BECAUSE ALLYUH EH GROW SINCE DEN ALLYUH, INSTEAD OF MOVING ON TO MEAT WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE, MAKE ALLYUH SELF NEED MILK AGAIN TO GET TO MEAT.
Now it is not stated what caused them not go grow, but we working with the fact that they have not grown past the elementary truths of God.
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For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
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translated trini
EVERYBODY THAT IS DEEMED AS MILKY IS UNSKILLFULL (ALSO INEXPERIENCED in Greek) IN THE WORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS (ALSO JUSTIFICAITON in Greek): CUZ HE IS AH LIL BOY CHRISTIAN (IMMATURE, UNSKILLED, INEXPERIENCED)
Homeboy (whoever wrote it) is just saying that a milky person does not have a good grasp of the Word of God
Now this is tricky!!!!!!!!!
Who really has a good grasp on the word of God? now the word 'word' in that sense is translated to implication of a topic or something said. Remember those guys did not have a bible yet, they had the cannon and letters. The word they had to go on was word of mouth and word by the letters. So the word of righteousness for us right now is the bible of course. But the word of righteousness for them was the word communicated about the saving Grace of Christ and all the other teachings that the apostles were spreading around to Jews and Gentiles at that point in time.
wheyyyyyyy.... ah just had to stretch dey.
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But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age
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translated trini
MEAT IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCED AND MATURE.
Full of age (mental, physical, moral growth) is not a old guy with grey hair. The three synonyms used to translate are Mental, physical, moral growth which point to someone understanding more about SECULAR LIFE HOW THE WORLD WORKS and what not, PHYSICAL GROWTH UNDERSATNGING THE HUMAN BODY TO AN EXTENT OF LIMITATIONS AND FUNCTIONS.... that is why sometimes the human body is used to illustrate certain teachings like the church as a body with Christ at the head and MORAL GROWTH, right and wrong society standards and customs.
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even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
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"even" is added in there to add continuity to it. But it really means MEAT BELONGS TO THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCED AND AND MATURE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO, BECAUSE THEY USE THE TEACHINGS (THE MEAT NOT THE MILK) IN PRACTICE BY EXERCISING THEIR SENSES (translated ORGANS OF PERCEPTION) CAN DISCERN BOTH GOOD AND EVIL (NOT MORAL GOOD AND EVIL BUT SPIRITUAL GOOD AND EVIL)
So here is where we wrap up. Now milky teachings bring one to the point where they are able to be self sufficient int he faith. A teacher is someone who is self sufficient because they don't have the extreme need to ask someone what they need to do. They know enough to show someone what to do up to their level, cuz that is as far as they know. Teaching at the milk level however is not easy beacuse you only know the FIRST PRINCIPLES.
CHRIST DIED FOR ME AND ALL MY SINS SO NOW I AM SAVED.
Teaching at the Meat level however shows that you have a firm all around understanding of things and you are now able to apply the word or righteousness to that maturity that you have and apply it (exercise it). Not just exercise it but seek it out. Cuz nobody exercises with a 20lb weight forever, you go and pick up more and more cuz you have passed the stage of the 20.
Milky person would have a personal traininer giving them a 5lb and they would stay with that until someone TELLS THEM to pick up more. Until they realise that they have the ability to get their own exercise plan and pick up weights for themselves.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IN CONCLUSION
########## MILKY ###########
~ Has to be taught fundamentals
Would say things like:
"Christ Died For Me"
"I am born again cuz Christ Died"
"Jesus died on the cross for me"
"I am saved cuz Christ died"
(notice everything is centered around Christ dying, (sometimes no even the resurection power is understood) because at 1cor 15:3 puts it that is the thing we must understand first of all)
~ They may also be in need of teaching all the time because what they know is not enough for them to be teaching as the scriptures says they should be doing (at meat stage)
~ They exhibit high amounts of carnality
1Co 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1Co 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
Once someone passes the fundamentals of Christ dying I believe according to the analysis of the scriptures they can be declared as having moved to meat.
########## MEATY ###########
~ Has past fundamentals
Would say things like:
"Christ's death and ressurection has made me justified in the eyes of God and therefore I am no longer seen as sinful"
"I am born again because my spiritual being has come alive in the regeneration of my inner man"
~ Is concerned with the whole application of Christianity based on the tenents of it's history all the way up the expected end. Therefore the old testament, the prophets, the kings, the empires and there signifigance have a part to play in the whole grand scheme of things. The holiness of God and such things are important to him/her
~ Desires more of the word and applies it. And as the word is applied more certain things are no longer accepted because the knowledge of Good and Evil compells them to be more righteous and go through Sanctification.
~ Is socially mature and begins to socially apply the word of God because the exercising of the word is acting it out, but if one is not seen as mature socially it would be unreasonable to think that they would be able to be spiritually mature when the secular world would not even recognize them as mature by their standards.
~ Questions and judges according to the word of God and does not take everything that is taught to him as the final word. (This one is important... cuz when meat is seasoned wrong you can make all different kinds of dishes that can poison people)
SO IF YOU MADE IT TO THIS POINT YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY SHOWN THAT YOU HAVE THE DESIRE TO SEEK OUT THE WORD OF GOD AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF IT FOR PRACTICAL LIVING AND A DESIRE TO ANALYZE SOMEONES TEACHING FROM A SCRIPTURAL VIEWPOINT AND ASSESS MATURELY.
So I am waiting for comments and questions. (are you milky or meaty?)
GUYS I THINK THIS IS THE LONGEST EXPOSITION i HAVE EVER DONE ON A SCRIPTURE. PLEASE PRAY FOR ME AS THIS TEACHING THING HAS BEEN REVEALED AS ONE OF MY MANY AVENUES OF MINISTRY.
